[A64 Mobos] Les cartes mères a64 en socket 939 bonnes pour l'oc

Les cartes mères a64 en socket 939 bonnes pour l'oc [A64 Mobos] - Divers - Overclocking, Cooling & Modding

Marsh Posté le 27-01-2005 à 19:50:33    

Sur ce topic, on recensera les cartes mères a64 en socket 939 bonnes pour l'oc, le mieux étant d'exposer également les problemes que l'on peut rencontrer avec certaines cartes meres et comment les résoudre.
Je vais mettre aussi les liens pour faire les vmods des cartes meres directement.
 
 
nforce3 :

 
Msi k8n Neo 2
 
http://www.multimania.com/undeadz/mobos/msik8nneo2.jpg
 
overclocking options
Bus Speed: 200-450mhz in 1mhz steps
Bus Multiplier: 1x-5x
CPU Multiplier: 4x-20x
AGP speed: 66-100 in 1mhz steps
 
overvolting options
Vcore: 1.4-1.85* par pas de 0.05v  *1.90 with bios 1.36b
Vdimm: 2.55-2.85* par pas de 0.05v  *overvolts à 2.90v sur la plupart des cartes meres.
Vagp: 1.55 to 1.85 par pas de 0.05v  
 
periphals and features
IDE: 2 ATA 133 slots
IDE raid: 0,1,0+1,JBOD
SATA: 4 SATA 150 slots (2 sont débloqués)
SATA raid: 0,1,0+1,JBOD
sata+ide drives in raid: oui
Firewire: 3 IEEE 1394A ports
LAN: nforce3 integrated gigabit ethernet
Sound: realtec ALC850 8 channel
 
liens
lien de la carte mere: K8N neo2 Platinum -> http://www.msi.com.tw/program/prod [...] hp?UID=607
forum discussion: Un topic unique sur la Msi K8N Neo 2  -> http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43033
test #1: Anandtech -> http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdo [...] i=2128&p=1
test #2: Hothardware -> http://www.hothardware.com/viewart [...] icleid=574
test #3: Hardwareluxx (german) -> http://www.hardwareluxx.de/cms/art [...] 54&seite=1
vmod #1: vcore -> http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41350
vmod #2: vdimm -> http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41350
vmod #3: vht -> http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41350
vmod #4: vdd -> http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41350
 
pros
very stable vcore up to 1.90v read the tips to see how to get 1.9v
vdimm overvolts to 2.90v on highest setting
VTT tracks automatically, OCZ DDR-Booster works up to 4,0V (put it in ram slot 4)
runs great with ballistix
runs great with tccd memory
runs great with bh5 (needs bios 1.36b or newer)
2x Memory Interleaving?
 
cons
cpu socket position problematic for some cases
vdimm mod requieres trace cutting
SATA ports 1 and 2 are not locked, use slots 3 and 4 (closest to the cpu)
issues with ram slots 3&4 not working very well seems to work fine for some people
cpu temperature reading not working correctly seems to work fine for some people
doesnt like ocz eb
 
TIPS
TIP: you have to disable cool n quiet when ocing
TIP: Cpu fan header must be connected, if not the pc could experience boot problems
TIP: if you have problems booting with BH5 try another stick of memory and set vdimm to the max and make sure you set the cas latency to 2.5 or 2.0 as bh5 wont boot with cas 3.0, then swap in the BH5
TIP: the CPU backplate is hard to get off on the MSI ... just heat it with a hair dryer, it will come off easily then
TIP: for best performance the MSI only needs Vdimm/3.3V bypass mod (or the OCZ booster).
Yet to try a chipset mod or HTT mod on the MSI ... it may help with LDT 4x @ > 260 HTT bus speeds
TIP: shut down core center after you used it to adjust or check your settings, if left running it might crash your system
TIP: if you have problems booting at low temps with a winchester try the latest beta bios
TIP: disable fast writes
TIP: only bios 1.36beta and 1.37beta allow up to 1.9v vcore
TIP: color coded ram slots are different than other 939 boards. Slots 1&2 are the ones nearer to the CPU and are dual channel
TIP: use HTT multiplier 4x up to ~260 and 3x up to ~290
TIP: use the + and - or PgUP and PgDn keys to change the htt speed, DO NOT HIT ENTER
TIP: check out the official msi 939 neo2 tips and tricks guide thread
TIP: check out this 2 ram compability lists: 1 2
TIP: In the bios press and hold Shift+F2 and then press ALT+F3 to unlock "hidden" features within the BIOS
TIP: If anyone has trouble getting low temp readings downlaod the latest MBM5 (use the K8N NEO Plat mobo selection, click settings,temps,CPU,and choose the first option for Winbond Diode 2)
TIP: if you experience problems with Antec Neopower and Truepower PSUs and also with PowerStream PSUs, try Bios 1.37 and turn the PSU off after you shut down, seems to help as well
TIP: Dissable Agressive Timings in Cell Menu if you're going to overclock
TIP: some people had close to no thermal compount on the nb, if your nb runs hot add some thermal compound (WARNING! might hurt your warranty)
here is a guide that explains how to remove the nb heatsink
TIP: The MAch II needs a new firmware to operate with this board get it here
TIP: the vcore of winchesters seems to undervolt about 0.1V, max vcore for winchesters is 1.7V
TIP: bios collection: 1.10, 1.20, 1.23, 1.25, 1.30, 1.33, 1.34, 1.35, 1.36, 1.37, 1.41
TIP: beta biosses
TIP: 1.37 modded bios by Trats 1 2
TIP: lots of biosses, incl. beta and modded ones with changelogs
TIP: bios flash guide
TIP: windows tool bios flash guide
TIP: newer boards, with S/N:K0411xxxxxx and S/N:K0410xxxxxx, seem to no longer have a bug with winchesters at low minus temps
TIP: get Codered's A64 tweaker
TIP: if you have BH-5 memory use the A64 tweaker and lower the timings as described here
TIP: OC Guide for the msi k8n neo2 by XS GraveDiggA
right click save as and open with wordpad
TIP: corsair xl pro memory wont fit in the board with an xp-90 or xp-120 heatsink
TIP: the newer northbridges (0410/0411) seem to need less vdimm to reach the same overclock in 1:1!
TIP: If you are having trouble getting windows to boot from SATA ("Error Loading Operating System" ), be sure to set SATA1/2/3/4 RAID to "ENABLED", even if you are not running RAID
TIP: older bios revisions need the agp speed set to 67mhz to lock it
TIP: disable aggressive chipset timings (performance mode) when ocing
TIP: if you boot with trcd 2 vdimm seems to drop 0.1v, boot with trcd 3 and use corecell or codered's a64 tweaker to set it to 2 in windows
TIP: bios 1.36b and 1.37 and modded variants seem to work best for bh5/bh6
TIP: to reach 1.9v vcore set 1.5 in bios + 3.3%, then get in windows use core center all the way up, and finally you use NF3 Clock-gen add 0.05v...it's about like 1.9v
TIP: turn off NV/ATI Speed Up in the hidden bios settingsas it ocs most cards gpu
 
 
 
Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 and K8NS Ultra-939 nforce3
 
 
http://www.multimania.com/undeadz/mobos/gigabytek8nsnxp.jpg
 
overclocking options
Bus Speed: 200-455mhz in 1mhz steps
Bus Multiplier: 1x-5x
CPU Multiplier: 5x-25x
AGP speed: 66-100 par pas de 1 mhz
 
overvolting options
Vcore: 0.8-1.70 par pas de 0.025v
Vdimm: +0.1v +0.2v* *max vdimm is 2.85v avec le dernier bios
Vagp: 1.50 to 1.80 par pas de 0.10v
Vht: 1.20 to 1.50 par pas de 0.10v
 
periphals and features
IDE: 2 ATA 133 slots
IDE raid: 0,1,0+1,JBOD
SATA: 4 SATA 150 slots (2 SiI3512 and 2 nforce3)
SATA raid: 0,1,0+1,JBOD
sata+ide drives in raid: yes
Firewire: 2 IEEE 1394b ports
LAN: Marvell 8001 gigabit ethernet + ICS 1883 10/100 ethernet
Sound: realtec ALC850 8 channel
 
links
lien de la carte mere: GA-K8NSNXP-939 -> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Motherb [...] XP-939.htm
 
GA-K8NS Ultra-939 -> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Motherb [...] ra-939.htm
 
forum discussion: Forum de discussion sur la Gigabyte k8NSNXP-939/K8NS Ultra-939 tips, tricks and guide thread -> http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47401
 
test #1: Anandtech -> http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdo [...] i=2128&p=1
test #2: Hothardware -> http://www.hothardware.com/viewart [...] icleid=574
test #3: Hardwareluxx (german) -> http://www.hardwareluxx.de/cms/art [...] =show&id=6
vmod #1: vcore -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] adid=20190
vmod #2: vdimm -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] adid=20190
vmod #3: vht -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] adid=20190
vmod #4: vdd -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] adid=20190
 
pros
tracks vtt
marche bien avec la bh5
marche bien avec la  ch5
marche bien avec la mdt pc3200 (micron chips?)
marche bien avec la samsung tccc
 
cons
bad vcore, unstable and fluctuates between 1.70v and 1.95v under load
coldboot problems with high HTT speed
crashes when upping the HTT speed too much at a time
always detects ide drives at bootup, cant disable this setting latest bios fixes this problem
9x multi sligthly unstable seems to work fine for some people
8x multi very unstable seems to work fine for some people
NO Memory Interleaving?
 
TIPS
TIP: you have to disable cool n quiet when ocing
TIP: easy vdimm mod with 3.3v rail = Vdimm Via single wire, VTT tracks automatically
TIP: easy vcore mod with pin10 to ground via 50K VR
BUT the max vcore after a mod is 1.95v and coldboot with 1.85v+ vcore might kill the board!
TIP: If having problems with BH5 ram, try the following:
1) Do 3.3v = Vdimm mod
2) Set HTT multiplier to 4x and HTT to 230Mhz - Lower HTT does not boot for some users.
3) Boot and overclock via clockgen, and tweak via A64tweaker.
TIP: for best performance the giga board needs Vcore and Vdimm/3.3V bypass mod (or the OCZ booster)
TIP: disable fast writes
TIP: use HTT multiplier 4x up to ~260 and 3x up to ~290
TIP: disable the bios option called "top performence" , it will limit your ocs and will cause instability with tccd at ddr400 2.0-2-2
TIP: if you have problems with some multipliers try the F5 bios  
 
 
Epox 9NDA3+
 
http://www.multimania.com/undeadz/mobos/epox9nda3.jpg
 
overclocking options
Bus Speed: 200-400mhz in 1mhz steps
Bus Multiplier: 1x-5x
CPU Multiplier: 8x-25x
AGP speed: 66-100 in 1mhz steps
 
overvolting options
Vcore: 1.55-1.70 in 0.05v steps
Vdimm: 2.50-2.80 in 0.1v steps *2.80v undervolts and is fluctuates
Vagp: 1.50 to 1.80 in 0.1v steps
Vdd: 1.60-1.75 in 0.05v steps
 
periphals and features
IDE: 2 ATA 133 slots
IDE raid: 0,1,0+1,JBOD
SATA: 4 SATA 150 slots (1&2 nforce3 (closest to the agp slot) and 3&4 marvell(not locked)
update: epox claims the latest bios locks ports 3&4, but the lock still doesnt work!)
SATA raid: 0,1,0+1,JBOD
sata+ide drives in raid: yes
Firewire: 2 IEEE 1394A ports
LAN: nforce3 integrated gigabit ethernet with VITESSE PHY
Sound: realtec ALC850 8 channel
 
liens
lien de la carte mere: EP-9nda3+ -> http://www.epox.com/USA/product.asp?id=EP-9NDA3plus
test #1: Anandtech -> http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2253
test #2: Hexus.net -> http://www.hexus.net/content/revie [...] 9JRD05Mjc=
test #3: PC stats -> http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1682
vmod #1: vcore ovp at 1.9v -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] hp?t=43284
vmod #2: vdimm -> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] hp?t=43284
vmod #3: vht manquant
vmod #4: vdd manquant  
 
pros
runs great with ocz eb
runs great with bh5
runs great with ballistix
runs great with tccd
uses the 5v rail to derive vdimm
port80 diagnostic display
 
cons
problems with 512mb sticks latest bios seems to fix this
WARNING! do NOT use the ocz DDR booster on this board! vdimm above 2.8v will fry a mosfet and kill the board!
coldboot issues, random crashes and freezes from usb hardware (mouse keyboard printer etc)
cant run command rate 1t in slots 1&2 latest bios seems to fix this
vdimm is stuck at 2.7v and wont rise seems to work fine for some people
cpu temperature not reading correctly seems to work fine for some people
vcore ovp at 1.9v
only memory without a heatspreader will fit in slot1 with an xp120
 
TIPS
TIP: you have to disable cool n quiet when ocing
TIP: disable fast writes
TIP: use HTT multiplier 4x up to ~260 and 3x up to ~290
TIP: SATA ports 3&4 are not locked, use slots 1&2 (closest to the agp slot)
TIP: if you cant get command rate 1t to run try memory slots 3&4
 
 
nforce 4
 
 
DFI LAN PARTY NF4 Ultra-D/SLI D/SLI DR
 
http://www.multimania.com/undeadz/mobos/dfinf4.jpg
 
 
overclocking options
 
voltage proc jusqu'a 2.1V
voltage chipset entre 1.5V et 1.8V
chipset refroidi par un dissipateur utilisant un ventilateur à lévitation électromagnétique (réduit les frottements et donc le bruit)
 
peripheriques et fonctions
 
4 emplacements DDR-1 DDR266 (PC2100) a DDR400 (PC3200)
avec support du dual chanel
voltage memoire ajustable entre 2.5V et 4.0V
supporte jusqu'a 4Go de RAM
CMOS Reloaded
CPU/DRAM overclocking
CPU/DRAM/Chipset overvoltage
EZ switch
 
 
SLI / Single VGA
SLI mode
    - 2 SLI-ready graphics cards (use identical cards) on the PCI Express x16 slots.
    - The graphics cards are connected via the SLI bridge.
    - The bandwidth of each slot is x8; when the graphics cards are connected  
      via the SLI bridge, it runs at x16 bandwidth.  
Single VGA mode  
    - 1 PCI Express graphics card on the PCIE1 slot will run at x16 bandwidth.
    - The other PCI Express x16 slot (PCIE4) will run at x2 bandwidth.
 
 
Audio
Karajan audio module
    - Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC
    - 6 audio jacks
    - 1 CD-in connector
    - 1 front audio connector
S/PDIF-in/out interface
Dual Gigabit LAN - Vitesse VSC8201 Gigabit Phy and Marvell 88E8001 Gigabit PCI  
2 ports IDE
4 ports SATA-2 (3Gb/s)
RAID 0 et RAID 1 utilisant a la fois l'IDE et le SATA
2 PCI Express x16 slots  
1 PCI Express x1 slot
1 PCI Express x4 slot
2 PCI slots    
1 connecteur 24-pin ATX power
1 connecteurs 4-pin ATX 12V
2 connecteurs 4-pin 5V/12V (FDD et HDD)
 
 
lien constructeur : http://www.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_p [...] LP&SITE=US
topic unique : http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwaref [...] 2188-1.htm
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] nparty+nf4
 
source : topic unique hfr sur la dfi nf4
 
 
Msi k8n neo 4 Platinum/Wifi Edition
 
http://www.msi.com.tw/images/product_img/mbd_img/7125.jpg
 
Memoire :  
 
• Supports dual channel DDR 266/333/400, using four 184-pin DDR DIMMs.
• Supports a maximum memory size up to 4GB without ECC.
• Supports 2.5v DDR SDRAM DIMM.
 
Slots dispos :
 
• One PCI Express x16 slot (supports PCI Express Bus specification v1.0a compliant)
• One PCI Express x4 slots (support PCI Express x2 only)
• One PCI Express x1 slots (support PCI Express Bus specification v1.0a compliant)
• Four 32-bit v2.3 Master PCI bus slots (support 3.3v/5v PCI bus interface).
 
Audio :
 
• 7.1 channel audio codec RealTek ALC850.
- Compliance with AC97 v2.3 Spec.
- Meet PC2001 audio performance requirement.
 
Lan :
 
• Supports dual LAN jacks
- 1 LAN supports 10/100/1000 Fast Ethernet by Marvell 88E1111 PHY
- 1 LAN supports 10/100/1000 Fast Ethernet by Marvell 88E8053
 
S-ata
 
• NV RAID supports 4 SATA II ports(SATA 1 to 4). Transfer rate is up to 300MB/s.
 
NV RAID (Software)
• Supports up to 4 SATA and 4 ATA133 Hard drives
- RAID 0 or 1, 0+1, JBOD is supported
- RAID function available for ATA133+SATA H/D drives
 
Silicon Image's SATARAID5™ (Software)
• RAID 0 or 1, RAID5, RAID10, and JBOD groups are supported
• Support up to 4 SATA devices connected to a single controller
 
lien constructeur : http://www.msi.com.tw/program/prod [...] hp?UID=637
 
plus d'infos sur celle ci dès qu'il y aura plus de tests..
 
 
 
Msi k8n Diamond
 
http://www.msi.com.tw/images/product_img/mbd_img/7100D.jpg
 
 
Memoire :  
 
• Supports dual channel DDR 266/333/400, using four 184-pin DDR DIMMs.
• Supports a maximum memory size up to 4GB.
• Supports 2.5v DDR SDRAM DIMM.
 
Slots :  
 
• Two PCI Express x16 slot (supports PCI Express Bus specification v1.0a compliant)
• Two PCI Express x1 slots(by share)(support PCI Express Bus specification v1.0a compliant)
• Three 32-bit v2.3 Master PCI bus slots (support 3.3v/5v PCI bus interface).  
 
S-ata :
 
• NV RAID supports 4 SATA II ports(SATA 1 to 4). Transfer rate is up to 300MB/s.
• Silicon Image's SATA RAID supports another 2 SATA II ports. Transfer rate is up to 300MB/s.
 
NV RAID (Software)
• Supports up to 4 SATA + 2 ATA133 Hard drives
- RAID 0 or 1, 0+1, JBOD is supported
- RAID function available for ATA133 + SATA HD drives or 2 SATA HD
 
Silicon Image's SATARAID™ (Software)
• RAID 0 or 1, JBOD groups and multiple RAID are supported
• Support up to 2 SATA devices connected to a single controller
 
 
Audio :
 
• Creative sound Blaster Live 24-bit onboard audio
- 24-bit / 96KHz audio quality
- 100db SNR clarity
- Up to 7.1 CH Surround Sound, Dolby Digital ready
 
 
• Supports dual LAN jacks
- 1st LAN supports 10/100/1000 Fast Ethernet by nForce4 SLI
- 2nd PCI Express LAN supports 10/100/1000 Fast Ethernet by Marvell 88E8053
 
Bluetooth/Wifi
 
 • 802.11g WLAN + Bluetooth dual net PCI Card (seulement dispo dans certains pays)
 
lien constructeur : http://www.msi.com.tw/program/prod [...] hp?UID=638
 
plus d'infos des qu'elle a été testée plus amplement..
 
 
 
PS : Bon je ne savais pas ou le mettre, je ne pense pas que le mettre dans la section Hardware soit bonne vu qu'ils ne parlent pas d'oc. :(
Si boblemagnifique ou magicpanda pouvaient m'aider ca serait bien :D
Pour l'instant je le mets dans "divers".
 
Je suis en train d'établir le plan du topic, je réserve 1 ou 2 posts et j'update tout ca :)
 
 
 
 
source : xtremesystems.org
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forum [...] hp?t=46730
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Message édité par evilrulez le 07-02-2005 à 01:32:02
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Marsh Posté le 27-01-2005 à 19:50:33   

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Marsh Posté le 27-01-2005 à 19:50:47    

réservé :)

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Marsh Posté le 27-01-2005 à 19:50:53    

réservé :)

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Marsh Posté le 27-01-2005 à 20:33:45    

pour la Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939, je fais tourner sans ventilos (DPS et Chipset) avec 1.7v et FSB 280
 
overvolt en burn de 0.05v
 

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Marsh Posté le 27-01-2005 à 20:49:59    

sympa le post :wahoo:
J'ai la MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum , je confirme : une bonne mobo :)
Quelsques changements que tu dois faire :
 
-overclocking options
Bus Speed: 200-450mhz in 1mhz steps  
 
Pour l'instant , Le FSB max que j'ai pu atteindre : 283Mhz en 1:1 avec de la A-Data PC4000 . J'ai pu atteindre 290Mhz en synchro mais pas stable @ 2,7Vdimm .
Curieusement , ça n'a rien changé pour moi de passer le Vdimm @ 2,85v .  De plus , les timings RAM ne jouent quasiment pas dans les benchs memoire Sandra lorsque j'ai juste une barrette installée .  
En revanche , la différence de performance entre le mode 1T et 2T pour la ram est très importante : 1T donne 96% d'efficacité sous Sandra , 2T à timings egaux donne 74% :ouch:

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Marsh Posté le 27-01-2005 à 21:42:00    

autant mettre direct le lien du topic sur xtremsystems...


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Marsh Posté le 27-01-2005 à 22:26:40    

Y'a aussi la k8ns qui est pas vraiment différente de la K8NS Ultra

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Marsh Posté le 27-01-2005 à 22:50:37    

[DALTON]Joe a écrit :

autant mettre direct le lien du topic sur xtremsystems...


 
pour parler français sur un autre forum, qui est anglais en plus..? :heink:

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Marsh Posté le 27-01-2005 à 22:58:49    

all2505 a écrit :

Y'a aussi la k8ns qui est pas vraiment différente de la K8NS Ultra


 
Oui c'est exactement la même que la Ultra sauf qu'elle n'a pas le DPS :)

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Marsh Posté le 27-01-2005 à 23:01:22    

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Marsh Posté le 27-01-2005 à 23:01:22   

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Marsh Posté le 28-01-2005 à 00:43:17    

eviLRuLeZ a écrit :

pour parler français sur un autre forum, qui est anglais en plus..? :heink:


 
je vois que tu as rajouter la source c mieux  :jap:


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Marsh Posté le 28-01-2005 à 01:00:58    

oui j'avais oublié et c'est vrai que c'etait moyen de pomper sans y apporter des infos supplementaires. :)

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Marsh Posté le 06-02-2005 à 20:48:49    

et la ga-k8nxp-sli vous en parler pas sur le topic?
elle est en 939 aussi. voila

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Marsh Posté le 06-02-2005 à 21:30:51    

les cartes meres en nf4 je vais en parler, le temps de récup les specs.

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Marsh Posté le 06-02-2005 à 22:07:46    

[:drapo]

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Marsh Posté le 07-02-2005 à 01:32:47    

maj :)

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Marsh Posté le 07-02-2005 à 01:49:52    

manque la k8nf 9 ;)

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